How the DNRS Program is Helping Me Heal

If you’ve been following me here for awhile, you know that here in this blog-space I share the grit and guts of what I’ve experienced in the realm of the sick life. But if you’d like to catch up on my story to understand how powerful the news I’m about to share is feel free to check out this post. It’ll give you a look at what used to be an average day-in-the-life for me. Don’t worry, I’ll wait right here til you’re done…

Ready? Okay.

So a little over a year ago I met a doctor through a friend and my goodness has she been a godsend to me. Quite frankly, I believe she is one of two doctors that has helped keep me alive. Well, them and a nurse who quite literally gave me back my life in 2015.

Through her care I’ve seen some beginning signs of improvement as well as experiencing a much lower # of ER visits (1). But I’ve still been largely home bound. Weak. Frail. Experiencing way too many symptoms to be normal. She was feeling hopeful that by the year’s end I’d see some marked change. And I tried my best to hope with her.

But then I was sent a message from an Instagram friend that told me I needed to check out the DNRS (Dynamic Neural Retraining System) program. She said it had completely changed her life and since our stories were so similar I thought I should at least look into it.

So I clicked over to the website and began to read. My first response was honestly, an eye roll. “‘Retrain the brain’? Do they think this is all in my head? This sounds like another load of positivity B.S. So…I’m outta here.” I replied to the friend with a thanks, but this just isn’t for me. And I thought that was it.


A few weeks after I said ‘no thanks’ it popped up again. Then a couple days later a friend messaged me about it, asking if I’d heard of it. Call it what you will: a sign from the universe, or God, or my own body/brain trying to send me a message, but I just couldn’t get away from it.

So I looked at the website again. I watched tons of the testimonial videos as well as a presentation by the creator of the program, Annie Hopper. Her story, though different than my own, also held so many similarities. And she confirmed what I knew to be true: this illness is NOT all in our heads. So I softened.

I felt like her heart was compassionate toward others who had gone through what she had. And her incredible story was this: I learned to retrain my brain and I healed myself.

That’s quite a bold statement, no? So I looked at the price of the program and I talked it over with Trevin. A couple weeks later I had the DVD program in hand. It came right after I’d finished running my very first workshop with some of the readers here at Living Grace. The timing felt perfect.

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I entered the DNRS program with a lot of skepticism.

I just feel like you should know that. It definitely wasn’t as if I bought into this deal right off the bat. But there were some aspects of the research I found online surrounding the brain’s ability to change itself (neuroplasticity) that I couldn’t ignore. And seeing how it had helped so many others similar to me gave me enough hope to give it a shot.

The program is designed to help you rewire your limbic system so that it builds more functional neural pathways. As I learned more about the brain and limbic system in this program, the cause and effect of why I continued to grow sicker or only experience small amounts of relief started to make more sense.

In the DVDs Annie explains that when the brain experiences various forms of trauma, whether that’s viral, physical, emotional or otherwise,  a maladapted stress response can be triggered. Essentially that means that our brain’s instincts to protect us get kicked into overdrive, leading our limbic system into a constant state of fight or flight mode.

And how on earth could I get better if my brain constantly thinks it’s under attack?!

This video documentary on neuroplasticity is quite fascinating if you’re interested in understanding more. (Just feel free to ignore the creepy music.) Variations of these concepts have been proven effective in the treatment of physical injuries, such as stroke patients or those who have suffered brain damage. And it’s also helped those who have suffered psychological PTSD or have OCD. 

Next week I’ll be unpacking a bit more about neuroplasticity and the design of the program, but until then you can also check out the website to watch some tutorials and read up on the science behind it. (<—that’s my affiliate link, which means I may earn a small commission if you click on it and purchase the program. As a reminder, I only share things I’ve either tried or believe in the value of. In this case: I’ve tried it and it’s helping me heal!)

My one-month improvements:

I’ve been on the program for just 4 weeks now and the changes in that short period of time have been quite amazing. Especially when Trev and I compare it to the life I’ve been living the last few years. And while I have more healing to work towards, I’m truly grateful for these beginning signs of healing.

As a pre-cursor to my improvements here’s a list of most of my diagnoses: Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia, Mold Illness, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, MTHFR genetic mutation and POTS).

  • I’ve gone from barely being able to walk a couple blocks on a very good day to walking almost daily the last week+.
  • My fatigue levels used to be at an average of 7-9 every day (on a scale of 10 being “I can’t move”) and now my levels are averaging below 5 consistently.
  • The inflammation and joint pain I’ve consistently lived with hasn’t been this low in over 4 years.
  • My strength is slowly growing and my litmus test is being able to do the dishes almost daily. They used to sit an average or 2 days before I could get through another round.
  • Dizziness used to be one of my most debilitating symptoms. Now? It’s at an all time low also.

The healing process continues…

There continue to be new things that pop up and surprise me as I continue to commit myself to the program and work toward further healing. And in my commitment to the program, this post will be one of my last to mention diagnoses or symptoms for awhile. It’s a necessary part of retraining my brain in this critical stage of early healing.

Guys, I’m not going to sugar coat it for you: this treatment is not easy. But then again none of what I’d done for healing has been. Seeing improvements and feeling genuine hope is most certainly worth sticking with it.

With all that said, I feel so happy to share that I believe I’m in the process of healing. And while I believe in God, I’m going to keep my feelings on this experience ultra-real for you: this is not something that I’ve seen sprinkled down magically into my life. 

I’ve fought for this. For years.

I’ve committed myself to countless supportive supplements, doctor’s appointments, injections, blood draws, detox, nourishing myself, gripping onto my pebbles of hope, so-much-waiting and now I continue to reach for healing with this program. (And I continue to maintain my supplement protocol under my current doctor’s care while on the program).

So I’ll leave you with this one-month update and hope that this program may also help some of you sweet struggling ones on your own healing path. To reclaim your own health. To heal your brain’s limbic system. And begin to see yourself able to dream again… of living a healthy life, of travel, and of pursuing the things you’ve been waiting for.

Have you heard of DNRS before? Or tried it? Have questions you want me to answer in another post? Drop your thoughts below in the comments! I’d love to hear from you. 🙂

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  1. Clare says:

    Welcome to the healing club!!! I did DNRS in 2014 and it gave me my life back. Not back– I’ll never be the same, but it brought me to a quality of life and healing that makes me love my life. It gave me tools for the rest of my life to help cope with my active limbic system. So so glad you found it and you’re healing!!! Yayyyyyyy!

    • Kami says:

      That’s so amazing to hear, Clare!! Love that you’ve seen such a hugs benefit from the program. Thanks so much for reaching out and the congrats! <3

    • Kathleen says:

      When you say “Not back-I’ll never be the same….” are you saying you will never feel as good as you once did or are you saying it made you BETTER than you were?

      • Kami says:

        Interested to hear Clare’s response to this! Wondering if she meant that the experience itself has forever changed her (as it does all of us – more compassionate, aware, etc.), but that she feels she’s recovered? Hope to hear her thoughts!

    • Kami says:

      Hi Ryan-Ann! I’ll be sharing more in the coming weeks. But feel free to visit the website if you don’t want to wait to start researching and understanding the program!

    • Trevin says:

      Hi Lois, I’m Kami’s husband. My understanding is there’s about 10-12 hours of learning the program and how to do your practice of treatment. From there it’s at least one hour per day (can be split into two or four segments) and using the tools you’re given throughout the day to retrain your brain

    • Kami says:

      Hi Lois! Trev gave you the gist of the program (thanks, babe!) but I’ll just clarify a few things quickly. Not that it’s a huge jump, but the program DVDs actually consist of 14+ hours of learning and preparation for starting the program. From there it’s what my husband mentioned: 1 hour of practice a day, which you can break up into segments of 15, 20, or 30 minutes if needed. There’s also a process of redirecting thoughts throughout the day to support that daily practice and healing of your limbic system. It takes effort, but I’ve seen it be so worth it! Let me know if you have other questions. You can also contact me via the contact tab at the top of the website if you’d rather chat directly!

  2. Connie Pitts says:

    I’ve had oral thrush for months. I think about it constantly and get annoyed by this. Could my obsession with this problem be making it hang on? I’ve even been biting or chewing the sides of my tongue while sleeping.

    • Kami says:

      Hi Connie. I’m so sorry to hear you’ve been struggling with this. First, please know that I am not a medical practitioner or able to prescribe what would be best for you. However I can simply share what I’ve learned so far about neuroplasticity and encourage you to do some research (perhaps starting with watching the YouTube video linked in this post). There is a lot of evidence that supports the brain’s ability to change itself, as well as how thinking about the symptoms we experience can perpetuate them. If you’re not quite set on investing in the program, a good place to start would be checking out Dr. Norman Doidge’s work: In the beginning of this program I spent a lot of time redirecting my thoughts regarding my symptoms. I still do throughout the day now, but I’ve gradually seen improvement in where my thoughts naturally go. It takes tremendous dedication and building a “toolkit” of how to redirect your focus. It’s not our fault that issues purpetuate – from what I understand our brain naturally goes there when it’s experienced some form of trauma. But we do have the power to rebuild the way our neurons wire together. I definitely recommend looking into the program or checking out some books on neuroplasticity from your library (I plan to do so this weekend!).

    • Kami says:

      Thanks, Brittany! It’s such a fascinating approach. I have a long list of books on neuroplasticity I’m planning on reading because I’m eager to learn more!

  3. Kathleen says:

    Hi Kami; Thank you so much for sharing with us. I have questions because I do know about DNRS but I too felt that my many symptoms were not exactly what others have described but there are similarities and overlap. I understand you were skeptical and I am too. Did you have a hard time making yourself start the program? When you say it is not easy do you mean making yourself make the time and committing to it every day? I don’t know why but I am really fighting myself to get started. Once you started did it become easier to stick to it? Thanks Kami!

    • Kami says:

      Hi Kathleen! Thanks so much for reading and leaving your thoughts/questions here. When I first opened the package and started flipping through the workbook I was still feeling skeptical. I made myself sit down and just start watching the DVDs. I told myself I would at least get through all the information and give is a month test run of following the program and if at that point it wasn’t for me then I’d give myself a break. As my post shares, I didn’t even need a full month! The information Annie shares in the program is really, really helpful in getting your mind (and heart, body, spirit) on board with understanding the WHY behind the program. The more I listened, the more I understood why I couldn’t seem to get better. And the more I bought in and was committed to starting. The more I practiced and really threw myself into implementing DNRS, the more I saw results (and therefore, the easier it was to keep going). I do feel it’s paramount that in order for this program to work, you have to be willing to keep an open mind. This concept is completely different than any of the other treatments I’ve tried. I believe it takes openness, commitment, prioritizing the program, and embracing the belief you can heal (which came for me while watching the DVDs and learning about neuroplasticity). Always feel free to reach out, especially if you bite the bullet and buy the program! You can contact me directly via the contact tab if you prefer emailing. Wishing you the best! <3

      • Kathleen says:

        I already bought the program, watched the videos, read the book. I totally believe it worked for everyone who said it worked for them. I believe it does work. I understand it all. I guess I am just not sure it means ME. Dumb I know! Reading your story though (and I don’t have Lyme) for some reason made me think it MIGHT mean me so……….guess I’ll try it. Like you said, I could just go for a month and see what happens! With all of the stuff that is wrong with me SOMETHING is bound to change. Haha!

        • Kami says:

          Ah, I see! Well I’m proud of you for giving it a shot. I’d love to hear your experience as you go through it. There’s something about having other people to reach out to and not feel like the only one doing something…”odd”. haha 😉 Here to chat whenever!

  4. Jayne says:

    Hi Kami really interested in your experience with this. I bought the Gupta program a few years ago and it sounds like the basis is similar. I definitely think our brains become primed to over responding so anything we can do to dampen that response and distract that focus is a helpful thing. J x

    • Kami says:

      Hi Jayne! Thanks for reading and leaving such a thoughtful comment. I’m really interested in hearing about your experience in the Gupta program as I keep seeing that pop up in discussions around neuroplasticity therapy, too. And yes, the fundamental practice in both programs to divert the energy of the brain is so vital. I now believe that wholeheartedly! Hugs to you! xo

  5. This sounds really interesting Kami. Have you read the book “The Last Best Cure” by Donna Jackson Nakazawa? It’s all about neuroplasticity. She drastically improved her autoimmune condition, through meditation, yoga, and acupuncture.

    • Kami says:

      Yes, it’s so fascinating, Kerry! I haven’t read that book, but am starting to read more material about neuroplasticity since starting this program. I’m starting out with a book by Dr Norman Doidge called “The Brain’s Way of Healing.” I just started and it’s really interesting. I’ll add that one to the list! Thanks 🙂

  6. Danela says:

    Hello Kami,
    I am happy you are finding relief to your symptoms.
    I am very tempted to try this program. My symptoms are somewhat similar to yours and they keep getting worse. I have a question though, you said that in the program there’s a process of redirecting thoughts throughout the day… and that makes me nervous :(. I have tried redirecting my thoughts in the past with no success. Is there anything in this program that makes redirecting thoughts different? Sorry, for sounding skeptical…

    • Kami says:

      Hi Danela, thanks for reading and leaving your comment and question! I don’t mind the skepticism as I certainly had my share in the beginning. The process of redirecting thoughts is quite structured/guided in the program. I don’t want to share anything copyrighted, so I’ll just say this: you learn which thoughts your brain’s fight or flight system feeds off of and you actively stop and redirect those thoughts with tools given within the workbook/DVDs. The first couple of weeks after finishing the material were intense for me. It felt I was almost CONSTANTLY working with my brain on this. So it’s definitely not a ‘light’ approach to redirecting thoughts. But, it’s what our brain needs to change and it’s through those efforts (as well as 1 hour of focused daily practice) that I credit the shifts I’ve been seeing. Hope that helps a bit!

      • Danela says:

        Yes, that helps! Although still skeptical and afraid of having hope (at the same time) I think I will try the program. Thank you! I will check back to report on my progress 🙂

        • Kami says:

          Understood 🙂 I felt that way even when I decided to purchase the program. Excited for you to try it though! Be sure to email me if you’d like to chat more about it once you start or even join a private support group. You can get in touch via my contact form or email me at kami(at) 😉 Wishing you all the best as you start!

  7. Aimee W says:

    I’ve been doing DNRS since August of 2016. 8 mos of following the program and unfortunately I haven’t had great results. I seemed to at first though! But gradually things have gotten worse the last 6 mos. Not sure what I’m doing wrong. But I can’t afford a personal counselor with them after purchasing the initial program. 🙁 I’m keeping at it though because I committed to 1 yr of daily DNRS.

    • Kami says:

      Hi Aimee. Thanks for reading and leaving your comment here, as well as sharing some of your story. I’m sorry you haven’t been seeing great results as hoped. Feel free to reach out via email if you ever want to connect for support. I’m not an expert. but am definitely open to sharing what’s helped me if you ever want to chat. You can send a message right to my inbox via the “contact” tab at the top of my website. Hope you begin to see better results, deary. <3

  8. Cameron H. says:

    Hi Kami,
    I’m so glad to hear you feel that you are seeing results, despite having active infections. I have researching how the DNRS can help despite having these going on. MCS, mold toxicity, CIRS, etc, I can understand, because those are more the body’s reaction to perceived insults. Infections, however, are real, as well as perceived. So how does this work?
    I have been in treatment 11 yrs for tick borne infections (primarily bart) and the other slew of stuff that comes with it. I improve briefly when new treatments are introduced, then quickly lapse back. This perceived “treatment failure” and “non responder” status probably causes repeated PTSD, on top of all the havoc infection is wreaking.
    I have ordered the DVDs and can’t wait to start, but would love to hear from you.

    • Kami says:

      Hi Cameron! Thanks for reading this post and commenting. I am certainly no expert on this, but will answer with what I currently understand and have been learning about the topic. So with the first few diagnoses you mentioned, there is a very real component to those too. I am on a lot of detox support and mold-specific treatment as well. But if the limbic system of the brain has an impairment, what I understand is that it can trigger an over-reactive response instead of detoxifying as the body’s able to do with a functioning limbic system. With a chronic infection my understanding is similar. I am still on all of my current treatment, but my body is responding very differently than it has for the last few years. And I attribute this change to incorporating neuroplastic therapy (DNRS). I guess in summation I’m saying that it’s not that the body doesn’t necessarily need certain treatments/therapies for fighting infection, but that it can’t do so appropriately if the limbic system isn’t functioning properly. I hope that helps some. I’m excited for you to start the program and hope it’s every bit as helpful for you as it has been for me! You may also find my most recent post on DNRS helpful as it has a few resources for personal research included at the end:

  9. Kathy says:

    Hi Kami-
    Would you be willing to post a video of you doing your practice rounds? I get “stuck” at doing my rounds & could use an example.
    I have had much success with the DVD’s already but could use some visual help:)

  10. Deb Hastings says:

    Oh how encouraging! I’ve been struggling through the DNRS program since January. I’ve had some major life setbacks but I keep trying.
    I had no idea that you were dealing with all of this.
    May the Lord give us perseverance and success!!!

  11. Courtney Hill-Youngquist says:

    I purchased the DNRS DVDs in 2012 to help with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. Have dealt with Lyme disease for 12 years and active neuro-Lyme for 4.5 years. You name it, I’ve done it. I keep trying to get information on how to implement DNRS to treat Lyme/neuro-Lyme but since I bought the DVDs years ago when only 4 discs in the set not 8 I cannot get anyone (including the customer service reps at DNRS) to help me understand how to use DNRS for active bacterial infection. I GET how to use it for MCS (or Chronic Fatigue or EMF etc – those things which were included in my DVDS) but now I am aware of 35 conditions it’s used to treat. HOW? How do you do the cycle (words (past/present/future) to treat Lyme, co-infections, neurological, vestibular and ocular damage, detox issues, weight gain, and so much more? After reading your post I would VERY much like to use DNRS to help my hyper sensitive Limbic System (which has been fried due to 2 infections – viral and bacterial having crossed the blood brain infection) and a body that an genetic deletions and doesn’t detox or function well. ANY advice on how to actually USE DNRS for Lyme would be MOST APPRECIATED!!

    • Courtney Hill-Youngquist says:

      Sorry – I should have mentioned that the customer service rep for DNRS said that if I schedule private consultations I can learn more about how to implement DNRS for Lyme (a significant cost) – but what is NOW being presented at ALL workshops and in all DVD series is somehow not retroactively applied to me (even though my DVDs cost the same amount then as they do now.) #desperatefordirection THX

    • Kami says:

      Hi Courtney! Thanks for sharing some of your story. I understand the struggle of finding something to help you regain health and trying all-the-things! Sending hugs your way for all your hard work. So I have the 8 disc set and will tell you up front that they don’t specifically outline “this is exactly how you do this for ____ illness”. Rather, you are encouraged to take the material, concepts, steps and exercises and take charge of how you implement them for YOUR specific illness. And whereas that might seem overwhelming, it really isn’t if we break it down. For the symptoms given in an example, I simply replace my own. For the illness given in examples, I replace it with the word(s) of my own. For the improvements I want to see manifested in my life, I choose MY OWN. The neuroplastic approach to healing the brain focuses on just that – healing the brain. And with a healthy, repaired limbic system, the body will have the tools it needs to begin moving back to wellness. It takes time, for sure. As well as commitment and creativity to find how to make the program (or neuroplasticity practices in general) work for/tailored to you. But it’s worth it 🙂 Hope that helps at least get you started! Feel free to use the contact form if you need to chat more.

  12. Terri-Lynn says:

    Hello and God Bless!
    I would like to try the program. It’s a little stressing not knowing how the program works and what I will be doing. Could you provide some info on that, please? I believe I may benefit from the program, as I’ve had brain surgery in the past. I developed gut issues, fibro, chronic fatigue, brain fog, and the worst of the worst is tinnitus. Recently, a urine test showed positive for high levels of heavy metals in my system, especially, gadolinium, which is the contrast administered via IV for “seeing” the tissue in the body via an MRI. Unfortunately, the the gado does not get excreted out of the body as we are told. I’m wondering if there are any testimonies on these type of conditions? Thank you. 🙂

  13. LDS says:

    Has anyone used the DNRS successfully JUST for POTS? I have read a number of testimonials from patients who had POTS but most of these seemed to have it in connection with malnutrition and/or deconditioning from other debilitating illnesses. Mine was of sudden onset and whilst I am deconditioned now (from being unable to stand), I wasn’t at the start. I would love to hear from anyone who has used it to help POTS alone.


  14. Ann says:

    I cannot find the meaning or examples of what “its” and “pops” refer to in the DNRS program. Would you mind explaining or linking me to something explaining it? Thank you

  15. Terrie says:

    Hi there! I’ve just recently begun to hear about this new path, and am delighted to hear from other’s that are receiving real hope and breakthrough on their own recovery journey. I get to pull the trigger on Annie’s DNRS system DVD set, and I am experiencing a wonderful hope and expectation for change, and to be functional again. Yes!!! Waiving pom poms in your general direction! Thanks for your report, and all that you’ve done to overcome! <3

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